maybe this is another semantics thing, but do you think classism exists because classes exist, or because a heirarchal, controling, patriarchal society that is based around keeping the 'lowest' low and self hating.
I was questioning the cultural trend, because I think we only talk about it within the set parameters of this 'self hating low' kind of reality where any of us who did grow up working class/poor who had access to books, who had parents or extended family who were voracious readers.
The tool was interesting, but seemed so lacking.. if you are talking about class privilege why didn't financial aid come up, why wasn't the question of 'did your parents graduate high school' come up, hell why didn't TV ownership come up right next to books?
All I'm debating is the tying of 'culture' to class... because while there is some economic privilege needed for some access.. a lot of this discussion is shaped purely by class-ist assumptions that have gone unquestioned.
again, I apologize if I seem argumentative or difficult... I just found this survey really limiting, and get very frustrated in such discussions because the assumed cultural trends are currently impossible to separate from the silencing that happens to the poor when they talk about their experience.
misposted elsehwere.... but here ya go
Date: 2007-12-31 06:06 pm (UTC)I was questioning the cultural trend, because I think we only talk about it within the set parameters of this 'self hating low' kind of reality where any of us who did grow up working class/poor who had access to books, who had parents or extended family who were voracious readers.
The tool was interesting, but seemed so lacking.. if you are talking about class privilege why didn't financial aid come up, why wasn't the question of 'did your parents graduate high school' come up, hell why didn't TV ownership come up right next to books?
All I'm debating is the tying of 'culture' to class... because while there is some economic privilege needed for some access.. a lot of this discussion is shaped purely by class-ist assumptions that have gone unquestioned.
again, I apologize if I seem argumentative or difficult... I just found this survey really limiting, and get very frustrated in such discussions because the assumed cultural trends are currently impossible to separate from the silencing that happens to the poor when they talk about their experience.