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This piece on Shapely Prose about some dude who honestly believes diet talk can forge peace in the Middle East is fascinating. The feminist implications! The propaganda! Just, wow. Seriously.

A guy visits Weight Watchers and recognizes the way dieting connects women, that the groups automatically create social networks among otherwise different people. Where he goes wrong is in thinking that dieters likely have the political clout to bring about world peace by connecting with their enemies. Because dedicated dieters? Are totally absorbed in dieting. And dieting in groups is a "womanish" sort of activity, so I suspect dieters are assumed to not have that much political power to begin with - if a group of Israeli and Palestinian Weight Watchers folk started proselytising about how the other people really aren't that different, I imagine they would not be taken seriously.

There is a serious side to this, which is that I think it's true - people do connect over dieting. If you work in an office where women are present, you likely know this; it's a more intimate connection than what happens between two random dog lovers, for instance. It is extremely common for women to network around their diets, so much so that you can feel shut out if you're in a small office and you don't diet.

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Date: 2007-09-13 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snidegrrl.livejournal.com
dieters are too diet-absorbed to be political

I'd say that's not necessarily true. It's like saying "football fans are too football-absorbed to be political". Women do tend to focus on their appearance but I think plenty of women do that and still spend time on other things, even political or community-changing things.

OTOH your comment was probably hyperbole and I should stop being so picky!!

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Date: 2007-09-13 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peregrin8.livejournal.com
Football fans likewise. I expressed it badly but what I meant was, they are intense about that activity but not in a way that would transfer to political activism. Football fans are also engaged in a massive bonding activity that uses a lot of time and energy, none of which I can envision being channeled into political action. I think if the diet groups or the football stadiums became political forums, they'd just lose most of their attendance to something else apolitical.

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Date: 2007-09-13 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snidegrrl.livejournal.com
AH! I get it now! I thought you were saying basically what is being said in the thread below. I think it's slightly different.

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Date: 2007-09-13 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peregrin8.livejournal.com
I've never really been a dieter, so I wouldn't presume to critique on that level. Also there is a difference between full-blown political activism, which interests me, and simply acknowledging that one's enemies are humans and may have similar interests, which is nice but may not always lead to change.

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