as if you really needed another reason...

[keryx]

Victoria's Secret wastes trees, among other things.

Duh. They send zillions of catalogs and don't recycle. Bad. [Note that you can request they not send you stuff, but it's irresponsible to put the effort all on the consumer, dude.] They're also a contributor - an iconic one, at that - to the idea that "sexy" and "beautiful" are things that every woman wants/needs to be and that one can buy.

And they're one of few places that make bras to reliably fit me. I hate that.

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[cyprinella]

And they're one of few places that make bras to reliably fit me. I hate that

Ditto.

[drownophelia.livejournal.com]

dude, i have the same issue. there's usually one one bra every other season that fits me perfectly, but that's a better track record than most other places i've tried.

yet, they represent evilness.

it's difficult.

-la

[snidegrrl.livejournal.com]

fuck victoria's secret in the ear! *shakes a fist*

[vaspider]

As if you needed another reason to hate them?

They're horrid employers.

[keryx.livejournal.com]

yep. it sucks. the options all suck. there's buy no bras, be in pain and considered freakish but at least not cave to someone else's idea of what you should look like. buy craptastic or appallingly expensive bras from other retailers (none of which are swell, women-friendly establishments). or buy nice-fitting bras from the evil brasellers of doom, which is probably indicative of some internal oppression.

[keryx.livejournal.com]

In what way specifically? Considering they're tied to other creepy shops like Express & Limited, I can only imagine.

[drownophelia.livejournal.com]

but you're right, they are pretty woman-positive at Victoria's, and the sales assistants are almsot always really nice there. at the very least, vickie's gives me a place to see pretty, big-breastd women glorified which you don't often see in The Magazines--most everybody's a twig instead. i find vickie's models more realistic (despite the many sets of implants) than most models, and they're one of the best places to buy really big sized shoes (which is good for transwomen).

-la

(the userpic is me in one of my favorite vickie's bras, i've had it since 11th grade).

[keryx.livejournal.com]

that is one seriously good bra. :)

and yep, some good points. still largely an evil place, unfortunately. if they'd just show a little pudge or a few small breasts here and there to tie themselves back to real women...

[vaspider]

Okay. This took me a couple of days, sorry, I've been very busy. Keep in mind that all of this is only from my personal experience, so this is a microcosm of the whole company, but from what I've heard, it's pretty indicative of their culture.

1) They don't hire girls who don't fit their clothing. When you consider that VS doesn't sell (in their stores) any size above a 38D in most of the fashions, and even the Second Skin Satin only comes in up to a 40DD, this does tend to limit the size of the workforce there. Thin is definitely preferable.

2) The corporate culture encourages cattiness, backstabbing, and all the worst behaviors of an all-female (or almost all-female) group who work in close quarters for very low pay for long periods of time.

3) When I worked there, I was listed as part-time but worked overtime every single week. Being listed as part-time meant that I got no benefits, but they could work me as a full-time employee.

4) They took money from my paycheck for a stock-purchase program I signed up for when I started; I don't own an VS stock, but they took the money for it.

5) When I worked there during the holidays, they kept gravely ill employees out on the floor. I wasn't the only one who this happened to, but I can distinctly remember the utter pain of having a UTI so horrible that I was running a fever of over 101 degrees, wandering around the store in dress-code-mandatory pantyhose, delirious from fever, pain, and medication, and being told repeatedly that I would have to finish out my twelve-hour shift or be fired.