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[keryx]

Will someone please come over here and poke me in the eye next time I click on a link to something in feminist? Like, say, I don't know, THIS $*##@!(a post urging a boycott of Curves).

Yeah, yeah, yeah... I know I was just saying that I wildly disagree with the CEO of Curves and, further, that while a women's gym could be cool, it sucks if it touts weightloss. So, yes, Curves is way way way not the thing for me. But the post and succeeding comments over at clueless town (er, I mean feminist) seem to be thinking the only good thing about Curves is that busy sad fat women like me could lose the weight we need to take off if we went there.

FUCK FUCKETTY FUCKWITTAGE GRRRRRRRRRRARRRRRRRRRGH ASS! ASSBUTT! DEATH DEATH TO YOU! EEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! AND THE HORSE YOU CAME IN ON! AND YOUR LITTLE DOG, TOO.

Ah, much better now.

It disappoints me so much to hear feminists using the healthy stick like that. And deriding woman-only space like that. And not thinking before they talk (yeah, cause that cut just a second ago was really carefully edited). And...

Like I said, poke me in the eye.

Is it any more or less brave and admirable for a mayor to marry gay folk when it's against the law than for a judge to post the 10 commandments in his courtroom (also illegal)? Is a person more worthy of respect if she fights for one belief versus another? Or donates money to one cause over another?

I'm saying. Of course your dollar is a sort of vote, and you don't want to vote for something you disagree with. But no person, company or product is as simple as the one thing you vehemently agree or disagree with.

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[ivyblogs.livejournal.com]

I wrote a long comment and then, trying to edit it I deleted it.

I just wanted to say, in answer to this statement:

Is it any more or less brave and admirable for a mayor to marry gay folk when it's against the law than for a judge to post the 10 commandments in his courtroom (also illegal)?

I'd have to say that I think the judge is far less brave and admirable. Our constitution separates church and state. No religious group is allowed to post their religious tenant on government property. (that courtroom does not belong to the judge)-not just Christians. However, some non-related consenting adults in this country are allowed to get married while others are not. Our federal government and the states may be scurrying to define marriage, but it was never defined in the constitution. Those mayors believe that as American citizens, gays are afforded all the rights of U.S. citizenship and it is therefore unconstitutional to deny them the right to marry. They are challenging unconstitutional laws.

The judge is saying "to hell with the constitution" while the mayors are trying to uphold it.

[keryx.livejournal.com]

Touche. Yeah, you're right. I was more trying to say (in my ire) that we congratulate people for being civilly disobedient when they disagree with laws in ways we like. That judge thought the constitution was wrong, various mayors think state bans on gay marriage are wrong. They're all standing up for something they believe in (though of course the mayors' position is more constitutionally defensible - as well as more ethical in my opinion).

We call people/companies brave and responsible when they promote causes we support, but call for boycotting them and basically label them crazy religious freaks if we disagree. And by "we" I don't just mean liberals/feminists/whatever, but pretty much everyone.

[ivyblogs.livejournal.com]

I agree with you. Have you ever heard anyone go off on Ukrop's? I've known people who were all down on them for being the Baptist store and refusing to sell alcohol. That somehow chooseing what to sell in thier own store is judgemental and infriging on people's rights. (Remember they used to not take credit cards because they didn't want to encourage people to go into debt? And they only started selling ciggs in the past five years I think. They won't put them out where kids can see them.)

But see, I have more respect for them because the owners are honest about their beliefs and actually are willing to make less money because of them. Think how much money thay could make if they sold alcohol! Not to mention, if I go to another store for beer, I'm probably going to get my groceries there too.

I've seen them let people take groceries home without paying- as long as they promise to come in later and pay (which is part of those Christian beliefs too). The staff is nice to the customers. They pay attention to their customers and try to give them what they want- except alcohol. I don't understand why they are supposed to be evil just because they're Baptist.

[keryx.livejournal.com]

I've heard those anti-Ukrops arguments, too. I admire acting on principle, so I don't see why people are put off by what Ukrop's sells or doesn't sell (or the closed on Sunday thing, which is darned inconvenient).

There are other issues where their corporate behavior impacts the community - like, in theory I'm pro-union and Kroger is unionized but Ukrop's isn't, or conversely, Ukrop's local contributions - that I think should have more sway.

[ivyblogs.livejournal.com]

I forgot about the Sunday thing. The close for big holidays too, don't they? Wow! Every single store that has opened across the street from my Ukop's has ended-up failing. That's amazing considering Ukrop's won't sell alcohol or open on a day lots of people are free to shop.I can remember when only drugstores could be open on Sundays. Long time ago. Was that called the Blue Law? They usually closed on major holidays too. Everyone managed to get what they needed during the week. I don't know when stores started being open every day and all night. It's hard to imagine not having that now- but I think that sucks for employees. I remember chashiering at Farm Fresh on Thanksgiving- it sucked.

I'm pro union in theory too. But then I go to Kroger and it kinda smells and the bread I buy is moldy by the next day and the natural foods section sucks and the cashier gets in an argument with the bagger while I'm checking out- with the manager standing right there! I thought if you were unionized you'd be treated better and therefor, happier in your job. That's not the impression I've gotten at Kroger.