ack! grrrrrr! #$*$@!!

[keryx]

Will someone please come over here and poke me in the eye next time I click on a link to something in feminist? Like, say, I don't know, THIS $*##@!(a post urging a boycott of Curves).

Yeah, yeah, yeah... I know I was just saying that I wildly disagree with the CEO of Curves and, further, that while a women's gym could be cool, it sucks if it touts weightloss. So, yes, Curves is way way way not the thing for me. But the post and succeeding comments over at clueless town (er, I mean feminist) seem to be thinking the only good thing about Curves is that busy sad fat women like me could lose the weight we need to take off if we went there.

FUCK FUCKETTY FUCKWITTAGE GRRRRRRRRRRARRRRRRRRRGH ASS! ASSBUTT! DEATH DEATH TO YOU! EEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! AND THE HORSE YOU CAME IN ON! AND YOUR LITTLE DOG, TOO.

Ah, much better now.

It disappoints me so much to hear feminists using the healthy stick like that. And deriding woman-only space like that. And not thinking before they talk (yeah, cause that cut just a second ago was really carefully edited). And...

Like I said, poke me in the eye.

Is it any more or less brave and admirable for a mayor to marry gay folk when it's against the law than for a judge to post the 10 commandments in his courtroom (also illegal)? Is a person more worthy of respect if she fights for one belief versus another? Or donates money to one cause over another?

I'm saying. Of course your dollar is a sort of vote, and you don't want to vote for something you disagree with. But no person, company or product is as simple as the one thing you vehemently agree or disagree with.

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[keryx.livejournal.com]

ow! ow! ow!

Maybe I'll learn my lesson from that. ;)

[ivyblogs.livejournal.com]

I just went over there. They're feminists? I can't believe any of them have a problem with women deciding they want to workout wherever the hell they want- especially a place without men. And considering some of their comments about fat people, why should any of be surprised that fat women would rather work out around other fat women- as opposed to "normal" sized people?

Man- they really suck!

[snidegrrl.livejournal.com]

I love how basically everyone has their own opinion of what Curves is "trying to do".

[keryx.livejournal.com]

Curves is apparently trying to work my last nerve with all the debating. ;) From what I've read, it seems clear this ONE GUY there is on a mission to save fat women from eternal damnation, but that doesn't mean it's the mission shared by all involved.

[originalenid.livejournal.com]

i am NOT even going to click the link... i fear doing so would lead to a massacre of giant proportions (or it could lead to, you know, my getting hurt and frustrated and feeling useless while i *don't* comment.)

oh! hey! look at my desktop! isn't it fat and pretty and FREE OF PRESUMTIONS ABOUT HEALTH?! it doesn't discriminate against me either!

tra la la la la! *skips off in to her own fat positive bubble*

[keryx.livejournal.com]

Hey, how about I borrow your bubble while you tiptoe over there and rip all those folk a collective new one? No? Ah, well, I tried. ;)

[originalenid.livejournal.com]

*sigh* perhaps some day i'll grow some ovaries.

(hah, taken out of context that sounds weird, in a freaky cloning experiment way.)

[keryx.livejournal.com]

that sounds weird, in a freaky cloning experiment way

especially when you're represented as a picture of moussed-up johnny depp. i don't really want him to grow any ovaries, he might not be so preeeeety. ;)

on the other thing, sometimes choosing yr battles is good for ya.

[originalenid.livejournal.com]

yeah. sometimes i just want to beleive that people won't hate me for the way i look. that's not such a bad thing.

the bad thing is, as i was discussing with a friend earlier, fat hatred is so deeply rooted that people can't even aknowledge to themselves that it's rooted in prejudice and, well, hatred. they view discrimination and hatred of fat as "tough love". so if you confront them with it they feel disturbed by their own vitrol and thus go in to denial mode and call you a looney.

that's my experience anyway. :P

[fatfeistyfemme.livejournal.com]

ehehehe omg -- your cuss scream sentence made me laugh so hard I might have pee'd a little. ;) But yeah - I hear you loud and clear on the "healthy stick" --- it's insane how much people don't THINK, and even more insane how so many of them don't LISTEN.

[keryx.livejournal.com]

hee hee... for good or ill, that is actually exactly how i talk when pissed.

[ivyblogs.livejournal.com]

I wrote a long comment and then, trying to edit it I deleted it.

I just wanted to say, in answer to this statement:

Is it any more or less brave and admirable for a mayor to marry gay folk when it's against the law than for a judge to post the 10 commandments in his courtroom (also illegal)?

I'd have to say that I think the judge is far less brave and admirable. Our constitution separates church and state. No religious group is allowed to post their religious tenant on government property. (that courtroom does not belong to the judge)-not just Christians. However, some non-related consenting adults in this country are allowed to get married while others are not. Our federal government and the states may be scurrying to define marriage, but it was never defined in the constitution. Those mayors believe that as American citizens, gays are afforded all the rights of U.S. citizenship and it is therefore unconstitutional to deny them the right to marry. They are challenging unconstitutional laws.

The judge is saying "to hell with the constitution" while the mayors are trying to uphold it.

[keryx.livejournal.com]

Touche. Yeah, you're right. I was more trying to say (in my ire) that we congratulate people for being civilly disobedient when they disagree with laws in ways we like. That judge thought the constitution was wrong, various mayors think state bans on gay marriage are wrong. They're all standing up for something they believe in (though of course the mayors' position is more constitutionally defensible - as well as more ethical in my opinion).

We call people/companies brave and responsible when they promote causes we support, but call for boycotting them and basically label them crazy religious freaks if we disagree. And by "we" I don't just mean liberals/feminists/whatever, but pretty much everyone.

[ivyblogs.livejournal.com]

I agree with you. Have you ever heard anyone go off on Ukrop's? I've known people who were all down on them for being the Baptist store and refusing to sell alcohol. That somehow chooseing what to sell in thier own store is judgemental and infriging on people's rights. (Remember they used to not take credit cards because they didn't want to encourage people to go into debt? And they only started selling ciggs in the past five years I think. They won't put them out where kids can see them.)

But see, I have more respect for them because the owners are honest about their beliefs and actually are willing to make less money because of them. Think how much money thay could make if they sold alcohol! Not to mention, if I go to another store for beer, I'm probably going to get my groceries there too.

I've seen them let people take groceries home without paying- as long as they promise to come in later and pay (which is part of those Christian beliefs too). The staff is nice to the customers. They pay attention to their customers and try to give them what they want- except alcohol. I don't understand why they are supposed to be evil just because they're Baptist.

[keryx.livejournal.com]

I've heard those anti-Ukrops arguments, too. I admire acting on principle, so I don't see why people are put off by what Ukrop's sells or doesn't sell (or the closed on Sunday thing, which is darned inconvenient).

There are other issues where their corporate behavior impacts the community - like, in theory I'm pro-union and Kroger is unionized but Ukrop's isn't, or conversely, Ukrop's local contributions - that I think should have more sway.

[ivyblogs.livejournal.com]

I forgot about the Sunday thing. The close for big holidays too, don't they? Wow! Every single store that has opened across the street from my Ukop's has ended-up failing. That's amazing considering Ukrop's won't sell alcohol or open on a day lots of people are free to shop.I can remember when only drugstores could be open on Sundays. Long time ago. Was that called the Blue Law? They usually closed on major holidays too. Everyone managed to get what they needed during the week. I don't know when stores started being open every day and all night. It's hard to imagine not having that now- but I think that sucks for employees. I remember chashiering at Farm Fresh on Thanksgiving- it sucked.

I'm pro union in theory too. But then I go to Kroger and it kinda smells and the bread I buy is moldy by the next day and the natural foods section sucks and the cashier gets in an argument with the bagger while I'm checking out- with the manager standing right there! I thought if you were unionized you'd be treated better and therefor, happier in your job. That's not the impression I've gotten at Kroger.

WTF???

[attrice.livejournal.com]

Must remember to *never* go to that community again. Jeebus. I'll echo what someone else already said: These people are feminists? First all the lovely anti-fat comments, and then everyone putting down some women's need for women-only spaces? All that stuff about "whats the problem with a Y-chromosome?" Uhhhh...do you actually know anything about feminism? I think the comment about "guys have better things to do that look at fat women" was really the best of the bunch. Asshats.