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One of the lists I belong to is DTMWSIB, which is essentially a size acceptance group with a focus on fashion. There is, however, a fair amount of self-congratulatory supportive posting going on at any time (basically, the "you go, girl!" think). It's generally sweet and positive and friendly and I can't really fault it, even if it talks a lot about boys and modelling and beauty - part of size acceptance is being able to see yourself as beautiful, which often means conventional means of gaining appearance-based approval.

However. Today I read this in one of the posts:
"Eventually a guy will come along and make you feel so unbelievably beautiful...and by then, hopefully you'll know yourself that you are."

I think my boyfriend can attest to the fact that it's virtually impossible for someone else's attraction to you to make you believe yourself attractive. But that is not the source of my annoyance. My annoyance is that, once again, the size acceptance folk are showing that fat isn't actually a feminist issue. That is, you are assumed to be content with your size if and when a man loves you for and/or despite it. Sure, you might get there before you feel the love of a good man, but he'll cement it for you.

Ew. Part of my issue is the tone, too. Eh.

Maybe what I inferred from that clip isn't what was intended. And hey, I know that this particular group is diverse enough to include some people who just Do Not Think The Way I Do - I've talk about that before, actually. But it still disppoints me that all the things I believe are so closely aligned aren't connected in others' minds, too.

[cross-posted to blog after it got edited to be all long and stuff]

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Date: 2004-01-29 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerriana.livejournal.com
It's sad, but predictable when the messages being plastered everywhere beg for women to have their entire lives directed at obtaining a man and getting their validation from men.

It's just dangerous to have that much of one's self esteem wrapped up in a man, because say Mary finds one who tells her how beautiful she is. Great. But then what happens if he is manipulative or abusive? Mary might stay because he is giving her approval that she isn't getting anywhere else.

I might take a peek at this list. Hopefully the overwhelming majority of people there are not stuck on that idea.

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